Ati Radeon HD3870X2 Vs. HD5870

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Ati Radeon HD3870X2 Vs. HD5870

Postby [FnG] LcNessie » Sat Jun 05, 2010 11:07 pm

Hello all...

Since Kahbouter bought another videocard, I just HAD to buy another one too... I mean, him having better stuff than me? NEVER! :crazy: :gripe: :star: (Just kidding! :P )

However, this gave me the opportunity to run a couple of benchmarks. For this, I kept myself limited to the latest two FutureMark 3DMark benches.

The first one is mostly DirectX9 based, and the latter will test mostly DirectX 10 features. A DirectX 11 benchmark is on it's way, but not yet available. Not many games for DirectX 11 as well anyway. Even DirectX 10 isn't widely distributed due to the lingering popularity of Windows XP (which is in my opinion still a great OS, even though it's aging and it's from Microsoft.)

I tested the following setup:

Static factors:

Processor: Intel Core2 Quad Q9450 @ 2.7GHz
Mainboard: Asus P5E64 WorkStation Evolution
Memory: 4GB Kingston Valueram KVR1333D3N9K2/4GB at stock speed
HDD containing OS and Futuremark Benches: 2x WD Raptor 80GB connected to onboard RAID controller in RAID0
Operating system: Windows Vista Ultimate x64, fully legal and updated.

Variable factors:
Video card:
- HD 3870X2 with CrossFire disabled (3870CFD)
- HD 3870X2 with CrossFire enabled (3870CFE)
- HD 5870 (This is a single-chip card, so CrossFire unavailable) (5870CFU)
I used the latest catalyst drivers. At the moment, these are the 10.5 drivers.

Benchmarks:
- Futuremark 3DMark 2006 Advanced
- Futuremark 3DMark Vantage Basic

Without further ado, the results!

First, Futuremark #DMark 2006 Advanced:

3870CFD: 11733 3DMark points (100% 3870CFD, obviously)
3870CFE: 14648 3DMark points (125% 3870CFD)
5870CFU: 15391 3DMark points (131% 3870CFD, 105% 3870CFE)

As we can see here, both the crossfire setup and the new 5870 setup are a clear improvement over the single-chip setup 3870 (or at least with crossfire disabled.)
However, the performance improvement of the 5870 setup over the 3870X2 with crossfire setup isn't so much better...

3870CFE is 125% as fast as 3870CFD, or almost a quarter faster.
5870CFU is 131% as fast as 3870CFD, or almost a third faster.
5870CFU is 105% as fast as 3870CFE, or only about a twentieth faster than the 3870X2 with crossfire enabled.

However, this is only the DirectX 9 benchmark. As you have probably noticed, chips have only gotten smarter, lately, not so much faster. However, to make use of these smart traits of modern CPUs and GPUs, the software needs to make use of these smarter features. However is one of my favorite words to start a sentence with. However, I don't like to end with a dangling participle as in the last sentence... However, we have more tests to run, so let's continue...

Let's see what happens when we run the DirectX 10 tests incorporated in 3DMark Vantage:

3870CFD: 5327 3DMark points (100% 3870CFD, obviously)
3870CFE: 8720 3DMark points (164% 3870CFD)
5870CFU: 13866 3DMark points (260% 3870CFD, 159% 3870CFE)

3870CFE is 164% as fast as 3870CFD, or almost two thirds faster.
5870CFU is 260% as fast as 3870CFD, or more than one and a half times faster.
5870CFU is 159% as fast as 3870CFE, or almost three fifths faster

Now, that's more like it! It appears that even the 3870 non-CrossFire was pretty much enough to pull most out of 3DMark 2006. By improving the GPU by enabling crossfire or replacing it by a 5870, the gain is limited, because the benchmark is limited.It appears that 3DMark Vantage is putting a much larger load on the videocards. A very significant improvement of almost two thirds can be observed by just checking a checkbox in the ATI drivers, and enabling crossfire. However, (sorry :P) replacing the card with the HD 5870 increases performance another three fifths over the crossfire-enabled 3870X2. It absolutely leaves the single 3870 sucking dust, by being a full 160% faster (260% as fast as) 3870CFD.

The 5870 has already been provided with DirectX 11 functionality, whilst the 3870 is *only* a DX10 card, so I expect that it will absolutely put the 3870 to shame if that benchmark comes out. I expect it to be about 400% as fast as the 3870CFD, if not more...

I hope you enjoyed my little measurements and benchmarks. Please discuss...
With kind regards, Mathijs
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Postby [FnG] Hanno » Sun Jun 06, 2010 3:43 pm

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Postby aximon » Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:47 pm

Interesting test.:wave:You could add some pictures of the video cards. Always nice to have something to look at when reading an article. And maybe a price comparison, too. That's 100 Euros vs. 300 Euros? :??:
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Postby [FnG] RampantBunny » Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:31 pm

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Postby [FnG] Kahbouter » Sun Jun 06, 2010 9:26 pm

You want picture, yes?

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Since Nessie bought exactly the same card as I did, a picture of my HD5870 will do, I hope. Below it is my HD4870 it replaced. Both are cards from Sapphire with their special Vapor-X cooler attached to it. It's cooler as well in temperature as in looks than the reference cooler, and completely inaudible. At least, I can't hear it over my seven 12cm case fans. :crazy:
As you can see from the second picture and my lack of performance testing and other statistics... I didn't bother with benching the old card, but put the new one straight in. :P

Sorry for the thread hack, Nessie ;)
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Postby [FnG] Sphinx » Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:32 pm

[FnG] Kahbouter wrote:... At least, I can't hear it over my seven 12cm case fans. :crazy: ...


Sounds like someone had a cooling issue ..... :mrgreen:
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Postby [FnG] Kahbouter » Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:39 pm

[FnG] Sphinx wrote:
[FnG] Kahbouter wrote:... At least, I can't hear it over my seven 12cm case fans. :crazy: ...


Sounds like someone had a cooling issue ..... :mrgreen:

Quite the contrary, my dear Wats.... Sphinx. :o
I want it to be silent, I want it to be cool (again, both temps and looks :mrgreen: ) and I don't want water cooling. Oh, and I wanted it to be light as well, so it's a 100% aluminium case. (Yes, my dear USicans: Al-u-mi-ni-um :dodgeball:)
Inside the pc the temperature is slightly above room temp (i.e. 24 degrees C, or some 75 F) and the CPU and graphics card are idling around 32 degrees C. And because all the fans are running less than 1000rpm, you can barely hear it. :thumbup:
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Postby [FnG] Sphinx » Fri Jun 11, 2010 12:51 pm

Sounds good to me Kahbouter :)
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Postby [FnG] Cannon » Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:55 pm

The return of Cannon

delivered on wednesday next week :)

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Postby [FnG] James » Mon Jun 14, 2010 2:59 am

[FnG] Cannon wrote:The return of Cannon

delivered on wednesday next week :)

Run for cover :D


Wow, congrats! :thumbup: Looks really nice... Glad I'm not the only one gaming on a killer laptop... It's time we show these desktop junkies who really is on top!
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Postby [FnG] Ro3L » Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:16 am

[FnG] Cannon wrote:The return of Cannon

delivered on wednesday next week :)

Run for cover :D


nice :woot:

[FnG] James wrote:Wow, congrats! :thumbup: Looks really nice... Glad I'm not the only one gaming on a killer laptop... It's time we show these desktop junkies who really is on top!
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I also game on a laptop : on this one.
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